Madonna and Bieber (VIDEO): Dating Rumors Spark Disgust, Intrigue

Written by Angela Atkinson

madonna-ellen-degeneres-justin-bieber2015Okay, so a recent appearance on the Ellen DeGeneres show featuring Justin Bieber and Madonna got a little heated, according to People Magazine.

Just in case you missed the show (like me, lol), I’m including a few key points from the People report, which were noted during a game of “Never Have I Ever” played on the show. 


  • Madonna didn’t shy away from getting risqué, asking about the game paddles: “Can we spank each other with these?”Both singers admitted they’d fooled around in a bathroom during a party, gotten frisky while someone else was in the room andforgotten the name of a hookup. (Also for the record: Bieber has dated siblings but insists he hasn’t had phone sex.)DeGeneres – who only copped to a little bathroom action – joked, “You two are perfect for each other!”
  • Madonna cozily leaned in for a cuddle with Bieber and said, “I feel like I’m getting to know my new boyfriend.”The flirtation continued the theme of Madonna’s taste for younger men, which DeGeneres brought up just before the game began.  (See the full story at

I’m not sure how I feel about this one. On the one hand, to each his or her own – and the older I get, the more I realize that age is just a number. So on that side of things, maybe it’s not a big deal. Obviously Madonna’s not planning on having any Bieber babies, right? So a fling is a fling – who are we to judge two grown adults? 

On the flip side, there are those who would frown on this deal for the most obvious reason – the age difference. 

If you don’t find yourself feeling disgusted by it, would you feel the same if it were an older man dating a younger woman? Say it were the 56-year-old Prince and the 21-year-old Ariana Grande? Would that be different for you, or the same? Why?

I’m interested in your thoughts on this one – please leave them in the comments section below, or join in the discussion on our Facebook page. 


  • Angela Atkinson

    Angela Atkinson is a certified trauma counselor and the author of more than 20 books on narcissism, narcissistic abuse recovery, and related topics. A recognized expert on narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder who has studied and written extensively on narcissistic personality disorder and narcissistic abuse in toxic relationships since 2006, she has a popular narcissistic abuse recovery YouTube channel. Atkinson was inspired to begin her work as a result of having survived toxic relationships of her own. Atkinson offers trauma-informed narcissistic abuse recovery coaching and has certifications in trauma counseling, life coaching, level 2 therapeutic model, CBT coaching, integrative wellness coaching, and NLP. She is a certified trauma support coach and certified family trauma professional. She also has a professional PTSD counseling certification. Her mission is to help those who have experienced the emotional and mental devastation that comes with narcissistic abuse in these incredibly toxic relationships to (re)discover their true selves, stop the gaslighting and manipulation, and move forward into their genuine desires – into a life that is exactly what they choose for themselves. Along with her solution-focused life coaching experience, Atkinson’s previous career in journalism and research helps her to offer both accurate and understandable information for survivors of abuse in a simple-to-understand way that helps to increase awareness in the narcissistic abuse recovery community. Atkinson founded Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Support, the SPANily Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Support Groups and the Life Makeover Academy. She offers individual and group coaching for victims and survivors of narcissistic abuse here at and at NarcissisticAbuseRecovery.Online.

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